Can you tell me a
little bit about the history of Escalate? Where it came from and how long it’s
been around?
We
started in 2005 as a spin out from Austin Ventures, where I had been for 10
years. My partner, Tony Schell, was running the Comerica tech lending practice
here in Austin. We had known each other since our time together at UT Business
School in the mid-‘90s. We have raised 3 funds totaling $625M in capital with
our most recent closing in late 2014 at $235 million. We’ve been executing
pretty much the same strategy since day one, which is to provide mezzanine
capital to expansion and later stage tech and healthcare companies. We invest
all over the country and have made 75 investments to date as a firm.
Typical
structure is in the form of subordinated debt, where we are coming into
companies’ later rounds of financing, providing a little more leverage than is
traditionally available from banks. We work a lot with SVB, Comerica, Square One,
writing $3M-$15M checks into software, tech enabled services, and Internet
companies.
Profile-wise,
we look for companies with a fair bit of stability and low wipeout risk. Since
we are not making as much on the upside, we typically try to underwrite for credit
first and equity appreciation second.
So this is
mezzanine debt, correct? How would you define mezzanine debt?
We
brought what had been a fairly popular financing solution in traditional PE,
real estate, and other asset classes to IT, which was a novel concept 10 years
ago and we had to do some evangelizing early on. When I came up in the venture
business, there was a traditional playbook that said you went out and raised
multiple series of equity, maybe layered in a little bit of bank debt, start-ups
were largely all equity financed. We are offering another financing solution
for certain types of companies looking for additional growth capital or to make
acquisitions.
What size company
and what criteria does a business have to meet in terms of revenue to get in
your door at Escalate Capital?
Companies
that we invest in are typically in the $10-$50 million revenue range with a
fair bit of granularity in the business. We are not interested in making bets
around technology standards or in customer or channel concentration. We invest
in a fair bit of B2B software, and companies that utilize software in offering
solutions.
Do you do much with
Healthcare IT?
We do, we’ve invested in probably 12 Healthcare IT companies.
We do, we’ve invested in probably 12 Healthcare IT companies.
Any management
buyouts?
Selectively,
where we come in alongside equity to help finance a recap, but that’s not the
primary use of funds in our typical situation.
Have you made any
Texas deals?
Early on
we invested a lot in Texas: HomeAway, RetailMeNot, LDR, and SailPoint are some
of our Austin deals, and we’ve been fairly active in Dallas and Houston as well.
All told we’ve invested in around 20 companies based in Texas.
Do you syndicate deals,
and how does that work?
We are
generally the only provider of capital within our portion of the capital
structure. It’s been pretty rare for us to have opportunities syndicate. You
could say we syndicate with senior lenders, which are good partners of ours and
great sources for deal referrals.
So you partner with
the banks on the debt side, not with other firms?
We have
and we would, but it’s pretty unusual.
Tell me more about
the management team.
Besides
me and Tony, we a third partner who covers the East Coast for us named Chris
Julich. With a total headcount of seven, we are a fairly small shop; that can
certainly be an advantage for companies that are looking for speed and the
ability to work directly with principals.
From the last Texas
Venture Growth Forum, did you find any groups interesting?
Yes, you
guys did a terrific job, especially for the first time. It seemed well attended
by companies and investors alike. We try to have a pretty good grasp on what is
going on in our backyard, but it’s awesome to meet new companies and I had a
chance to do that for sure.
What’s your take on
putting Limited Partners out there at the next conference?
If those
guys are interested, I think that’s fantastic. I’ve never seen that before
combined with these kind of events. That would be another awesome connection to
make and a great way to potentially increase attendance among investors